When the Heritage Foundation published Project 2025 two years ago, the goals seemed so radical that many dismissed the threat as far-fetched. But as the Trump presidency steamrolls over accepted norms, court orders and public opinion, much of that radical agenda is being implemented. In order to see where all this is leading, we need to take a look at history. The Klan was domestic terrorism. They used murder and voter suppression to shore up the status quo. In his book How We Win the Civil War Steve Phillips posits that the Confederacy never really surrendered, and until we examine the past we can’t move forward into a better future. But he also maintains that the better future is realistically achievable. It’s all about mobilization.

The interview will air at 6:30pm on Friday 3/13/2026 or
you can listen to the podcast version here